Frans de Waal on Empathy, Morality, and S&R

From Salman Hameed of Irtiqa:

Here are Frans de Waal and David Berreby on Bloggingheads.tv. Check out the discussion between 30 and 45 minutes. De Waal has the appropriate tone to address not only the sensitive issue of the origins of morality, but also science and religion in general. He is empathetic (ha!) to believers, but has a no-nonsense approach toward crazy claims, such as creationism or that one cannot be moral without God. Good stuff.
I’m not completely sold on the Bloggingheads.tv format (sometimes the discussion can simply drag on), but I like this one, in particular the last half hour.

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