Comments on: Why Should We Forgive Michael Vick? Everett Worthington Answers http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/2009/08/18/why-should-we-forgive-michael-vick-or-shouldnt-we-everett-worthington-answers/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:49:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Marian http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/2009/08/18/why-should-we-forgive-michael-vick-or-shouldnt-we-everett-worthington-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-1710 Marian Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:23:29 +0000 http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/?p=3063#comment-1710 NOT TO MENTION WHAT HE DID IS ILLEGAL^^^!!! NOT TO MENTION WHAT HE DID IS ILLEGAL^^^!!!

]]> By: Marian http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/2009/08/18/why-should-we-forgive-michael-vick-or-shouldnt-we-everett-worthington-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-1709 Marian Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:20:50 +0000 http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/?p=3063#comment-1709 Michael Vick should spend the rest of his life in jail. I'm a pretty strong believer in forgiveness, but I think Vick has to apologize first before anyone can forgive him. You don't need a Ph.D. from Stanford ^^^ to realize this. Now I know where I don't want to go to college! Not to make it personal or anything, Mr. Luskin. Obviously forgiveness is important, but only after the 'sinner' has apologized and been punished (a.k.a. jail). I'm very upset by this, especially because Vick didn't need the money and definitely wasn't bored. I think he should go to jail and 75% of his money given to the ASPCA, and he should make a public apology (and MEAN IT). Vick should also go through therapy so we can learn what made him do those cruel things to innocent, defenseless victims who couldn't even tell people what was happening. They were drowned, mauled, killed in fights, abused, electrocuted, and a number of other slow and painful deaths. Puppies were used as bait dogs to train pit bulls, who were abused to make them angry. Any dog who lost a fight (and was not killed during the process) would be drowned, electrocuted, or just put in an arena with tons of other vicious dogs and left to die. Vick even did this to family pets. This world is not all about winning. If it were, then Vick should be killed because his team has lost games before. Marian High School Student Michael Vick should spend the rest of his life in jail. I’m a pretty strong believer in forgiveness, but I think Vick has to apologize first before anyone can forgive him. You don’t need a Ph.D. from Stanford ^^^ to realize this. Now I know where I don’t want to go to college! Not to make it personal or anything, Mr. Luskin. Obviously forgiveness is important, but only after the ’sinner’ has apologized and been punished (a.k.a. jail). I’m very upset by this, especially because Vick didn’t need the money and definitely wasn’t bored. I think he should go to jail and 75% of his money given to the ASPCA, and he should make a public apology (and MEAN IT). Vick should also go through therapy so we can learn what made him do those cruel things to innocent, defenseless victims who couldn’t even tell people what was happening. They were drowned, mauled, killed in fights, abused, electrocuted, and a number of other slow and painful deaths. Puppies were used as bait dogs to train pit bulls, who were abused to make them angry. Any dog who lost a fight (and was not killed during the process) would be drowned, electrocuted, or just put in an arena with tons of other vicious dogs and left to die. Vick even did this to family pets. This world is not all about winning. If it were, then Vick should be killed because his team has lost games before.

Marian
High School Student

]]> By: Frederic Luskin, Ph.D. http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/2009/08/18/why-should-we-forgive-michael-vick-or-shouldnt-we-everett-worthington-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-331 Frederic Luskin, Ph.D. Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:54:30 +0000 http://www.scienceandreligiontoday.com/?p=3063#comment-331 With Michael Vick, justice was served. He spent two years in jail and has now been released. That is the social contract that we operate under in the USA. Do the crime then do the time. The question is now, should Michael VIck be forgiven? That is a question of the heart and has less clear-cut answers. First, very few people were actually harmed by Michael Vick and so have nothing to forgive. For those directly harmed, wounds need to be grieved and then hostility released. Enough time has passed for that to occur. For the rest of us, it is up to us to complete the cyle of justice which allows an offender to return to his community. This return necessitates from Mr. Vick's remorse and a committment to change in this case his criminal behavior. At this point in time, we have both of these commitments. So, we wait to see if he is sincere and, if so, allow justice to be finished with Mr. VIck's rehabilitation. Frederic Luskin, Ph.D. Director of Stanford Forgiveness Projects and author of Forgive for Good With Michael Vick, justice was served. He spent two years in jail and has now been released. That is the social contract that we operate under in the USA. Do the crime then do the time.
The question is now, should Michael VIck be forgiven? That is a question of the heart and has less clear-cut answers. First, very few people were actually harmed by Michael Vick and so have nothing to forgive. For those directly harmed, wounds need to be grieved and then hostility released. Enough time has passed for that to occur. For the rest of us, it is up to us to complete the cyle of justice which allows an offender to return to his community. This return necessitates from Mr. Vick’s remorse and a committment to change in this case his criminal behavior. At this point in time, we have both of these commitments. So, we wait to see if he is sincere and, if so, allow justice to be finished with Mr. VIck’s rehabilitation.

Frederic Luskin, Ph.D.
Director of Stanford Forgiveness Projects and author of Forgive for Good

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